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In 1969 I was convinced that Cuba was part of the Ancient Land of Atlantis. I took navegation card and made study of the seas of Cuba. And I sailed with a friend and his scuba equiment, and so God helped us. We found ruins of Palace with columns and balconies and houses; squaers, rectangular, circular and in spiral patter . Street and side walk.... and columns, a great deal of columns of every size and shape.
I always wanted to writte a book about this discoveries but this is imposible in my country . This ideas and thing do not combine very well with Official Ideology Communist . I continued searching and found a great Temple covered by the vegetation. It is an enormuos place (3 km large) with a certain Santuary in the shape of a Maltian Cross, whose arms are oriented N.W.E.S. The WESTER is the higher. And in the very middle there is a Squar Altar. Just like Ezekiel's Vission .
After reviewing lots of books and history note about: Cataros, Knigt Templars, Flavio Josefo, Chivalry Novel like "Amadys de Gaula", notes about the books of Ragon and the Scotish Masonry Rites, I am sure that a long time ago Scotish, Irish, Britsh Templars, and San Brandan were in Cuba . I found some Ogamic scriptures in caves in different parts of Cuba. I had found Menhir s, Dolmens, and a Steel Ring for the wrist with Ogamic inscription too.

Hi,

do you live in the U.S. or in Cuba? Sounds very interesting about the underwater structures. I just made my open water divers license last summer and so I am searching for some good diving places, not deeper than 30m.
Do you have any more information about where to find all these places and do you have some photos of it?

Yours,

Stefan

Hi Folks!

Remnants of structures from the Atlantean Crater have been found in Cuban territorial waters. Civilization remnants are the (Mexican) Olmecs (rubber people) whos carvings date to 1500 BCE, but refer to much older stories, i.e. like war and evacuation. The Olmecs are the forefathers of the earliest Mayan peoples. One could almost imagine their carvings being Abraham's migration from Sumerian city of Ur, with a war being waged in the background. Other carvings depict African, Chinese and central Asian figures. Asians interbred with the natives of S. America dating back to 1500 BCE at least. My NA native friends still have migration stories of their trip from Asia and their creation stories correlate to Sumerianism and Zoroastrianism, as well as the Greek and Viking allegories.

They call the vsitors star peoples, sometimes star warriors and they're from star nations (all plural).

Hmmm...

Greg
Raven Medicine (Northern Cree)

I ask you to accept anything possible as a possibility. Entertain a possibility if you will, approximately ten thousand years ago there existed a large landmass in the Atlantic Ocean. This landmass was mainly comprimised of a large mountain chain formed via a slightly subducting tectonic plate in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, surrounded by lower landmasses that had actually been carved into concentric rings around the center, located just northwest of where the Azores now sit, of this mountain chain spaced by giant channel rings. This landmass was all connected by the mountain chain and sat just beyond the pillars of heracles that open to the ocean from the mediterranean. At some point, a meteor, bomb, or explosion of some other sort happened near the center of this continent, possibly in one of the channels. The force was great enough to peirce the landmass and ignite the belt of gas that sat beneath the continent. This resulted in a violent explosion along the seam of the tectonic plates, refferred to today as the Mid-Atlantic ridge, and a dramatic submersion of almost the entirety of the continent, leaving only the few mountain peaks not along the ridge to remain peeking out of the water. This is my possibility, which would explain the ridge of salinization shift observable in the North Atlantic, the erosion on the deep ridges of the Mid-Atlantic that had to have happenned above water, Plato's very accurate, lovely, and detailed recount of the story of Atlantis, and many other anomalies that for one reason or another, are explained away or beleived to be fantasy. Plato, one of the most respected philosophers of all time, recorded Critias, a highly respected historian philosopher, telling what Critias speaks of as the truest of tales on his grandfather Solon's word as a greek ruler; this is no fanciful story. I believe Atlantis existed and was destroyed approximately ten thousand years ago.

To: Stefan Eggers,AudaxIuventes

Was away for awhile (delay in posting) . I live in Canada actually, but have visited Cuba.

National Geographic (last I heard) was negotiating with Cuba for access to the underwater pyramid remnants in Cuban territorial waters. It's my favourite bet for where Atlantis was. If you read the ancient script for Toth the Atlantean, destruction came from above and resulted in the flooding of Atlantis, correlating (but not necessarily cause and effect) to the crater we now know as the Gulf of Mexico. 10,000 years ago would be the most recent estimate of the age of Atlantis, correlating to when the Sphinx was built, ostensibly incorporating Atlantean knowledge and history (Toth, Hermes, Osiris ' Tomb).
Atlantean tales and ritual are found throughout NA Native lore and correlate to early Sumerian languages and script. Too many correlations and you start to get a sense of cause and effect, sort of thing...

The seam in the Ocean near the Azores is my second favourite bet for where Atlantis was.

The Mayan calendar, very advanced in accounting for the wobble of the earth in terms of constellations visible from places like Machu Pichu, also claiims Atlantean roots. According to them (the ones who've been isolated in the mountains since Pizarro), its time for the "reconciliation of the feather and the snake". Toth the Atlantean mentions biding time until "the darkness is ready or the light". All these allegories correspond to the Shiva creation story per the Hindu Vedas, where the snake's responsibility is to expand the "knowledge" horizons of mankind until a balance is acheived between the darkness and the light.

Then there's "seeking that which has been lost" per Hebrew Cabalism and the Delanoy Meta Analysis of psi abilities with the general population (Edin borough U. and Cambridge U.'s Cavendish Labs (physics))....

And one starts to wonder....

Greg
Raven Shaman
(M'iq M'aq, Northern Cree Tradition)

Dear LUIS A. PEREZ,

Please see my previous post. My suggestion would be that Templar, Mason rites, Runes etc., are derived from ancient scripts and archeological finds, like the one you mentioned in Cuba (now becoming public knowledge). My most extravagant theory is that the planet is to develop sufficent "clamidium" capabilities as one of the necessary conditions for contact with "star nations", other conditions being technical and social.

As for my bckground, I've been a shaman on a "formal" vision quest for about 10 years now,and have deveoped into a Kabbalist, Kundu and Kundalini (path of the "good" snake) adept as well. In the kabbalistic Hebrew, Arabic and Sanskrit  code that I've "broken", there's every suggestion that Abraham was crowned as the best of the lot of monkeys on the planet and told to skeddadle while the war with the giants began. This corresponds very well with the Hindu Vedas' and other lit. re "vimanas" or chariots in the sky and/or ether. Some of the latter stories refer to times predating Abraham and the lood.

NA native stories contain suggestions that "star peoples" occaisionally came down to earth for "recruiting drives", sort of thing. The NA natives had to perform all sorts of physical and mental feats for these people to prove themselves worthy of being "star warriors". Lakota legends mention both good and bad "Thunderbirds", with the bad ones floating/flying around and destroying native settlements. Thus a "coyote" shaman/shapeshifter would be one designated as a warrior to fight the "Evil Thunderbirds" (and just "how" one might ask...mentally?). Also explaiins NA natives tendancy not to stay in one place too long... too easy a target.

All the "cult" symbols you mentioned in your post are familiar to NA natives as well. They also correlate to the "peculiar" pattern of pyramid building that took place virtually simultaneously around the globe about 2,500 BCE. One might almost think that some "other" folks had given up on erasing humankind and decided to have a go at letting us develop on our own, with pyramid building as the first step in this "reconciliation" and waiting to see what develop.

Certainly the tales of the "angel" Metatron indicate a machine intelligence at work.

Greg
Raven Shaman